Player Blog Category Archives: iRiver → iRiver :: H10
January 10, 2005
Bad News on the iRiver H10
According to information gathered by DAPReview from iRiver staffers at CES, the upcoming iRiver H10 has a number of negative points that may add up to making the H10 a less-than-compelling choice for buyers.
Specifically iRiver said that the H10 will only support Microsoft's new Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) instead of the more common Mass Storage Class (MSC). While the acronyms and geek-speak may not mean much to you, it may make the H10 less useful to you. Older iRiver devices like the H120 and H320 are MSCs. This means that you can connect them to almost any computer (a Windows PC, a Mac, even a Linux box) and access the files on the device without extra software. Essentially they're universal, portable harddrives.
However, moving to MSC may eliminate some of those features. Likely you won't be able to connect to Macs or Linux boxes anymore. Also, older Windows systems not running the latest version of Microsoft Media Player might be out in the cold as well.
Also, even though the H10 supports line-in recording and line-out, you have to buy the $40 dock to use them.
Unlike previous iRiver models, the H10 uses a custom USB cable rather than an industry standard cable. With a standard cable, picking up a spare to connect with a second computer was easy and inexpensive. Now you'll have to buy one from iRiver.
Still no gapless MP3 playback.
Finally, iRiver removed the volume up and down buttons. According to DAPReview, "you must be in the Now Playing screen to adjust volume". Presumably you use the touch pad to raise and lower volume from the Now Playing screen.
There are contradicting posts that state you can use it as mass storage.
Posted by: Kreft at January 24, 2005 11:52 AMThat is untrue. I've got one and you can see it in Explorer as a storage device named Iriver H10. There are pictures at this link:
http://www.digitalsportspage.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6842&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
Scott,
It should work under Windows since Microsoft designed MTP.
However, it may not work with Linux, Mac OS, etc. even though older MSC devices would. That's my point.
Lindsey
Posted by: Lindsey Smith at February 4, 2005 11:38 AMI agree 100% with you Lindsey. Even though Windows XP detects the H10 as a drive, you can't use it as a regular removable dride. You can't move files inside the player's folder, nor remame a file. In addition, I have a Mac Powerbook G4 and it won't detects the H10 in any way.
My questions are, "Is iRiver thinking or planing to change the H10 system back to MSC?, or Are they doing something to make the H10 more compatible to other OS?, Would iRiver improve the actual software in the H10?
Honghui
Posted by: Honghui at June 23, 2005 11:58 PMsorry to disaggree, but u are wrong my windows xp computer detects my new iriver h10 as a mass storage device and i can make as many changes as i want, no need to install supplied software, and i can do the same on my mac and linux systems, maybee you have old irivers??
Mehmet
sorry to disaggree, but u are wrong my windows xp computer detects my new iriver h10 as a mass storage device and i can make as many changes as i want, no need to install supplied software, and i can do the same on my mac and linux systems, maybee you have old irivers??
Mehmet
check this:iRiver H10 on Ubuntu Linux Howto
http://www.silwenae.org/blog/?p=486